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Raphael Honigstein2010-03-01
@honigstein1,509 days
Football and Fußball. All channels.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@TheMurph_88 yes
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@TonyBarretTimes fantastic
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@JimmyGrimble10 Bayern, Barca, Uli, Glazers, PSG - all different stories. not a question of singling out any clubs.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@JimmyGrimble10 I'm not critical of City as such. I think there need to be SOME limits on how much money you can spend on buying titles.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@JimmyGrimble10 4. to reiterate: all of the above are not "wrong" or anything like that. but beneficial to the league? hard argument to make
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@JimmyGrimble10 3. Arsenal were biggest hit by CFC and then MCFC, the results bear that out perfectly
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@JimmyGrimble10 2. City and Chelsea have bought and directly targeted other PL stars. nice to get money in return but better to keep players
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@JimmyGrimble10 loads of different points here. 1. Everton's CL chances have obviously decreased since City - everybody else's have, too.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@JimmyGrimble10 don't get me wrong: City and Chelsea well within their rights to do what they did. but "good for the league"? complicated
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@JimmyGrimble10 if by "benefit" you mean losing their best players and paying over the odds (Rooney) to keep them, then yes
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@JimmyGrimble10 no point comparing both leagues. by the time Mansour came in, the horse had already bolted in the PL
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@razaobaid results roughly in line with resources, so neither here nor there. but some decisions (Kallström/Sanogo) and methods indefensible
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@razaobaid when they play well, I say so. when they play badly, I say so, when Wenger makes mistakes - I say so. nothing harsh about it
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@razaobaid I like Arsenal
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The race for fourth in the Bundesliga tells us a lot about the nature of the league: espnfc.com/blog/_/name/bu…
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They come from a fan forum. "Source: München Lokal". There is no such paper
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Embarrassing that fake Götze quotes on Reus / Man Utd are being disseminated by mainstream media.
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The race for fourth spot in the Bundesliga: espnfc.com/blog/_/name/bu…
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@CillianDoyle13 @c_doyler10 @JonBloggs66 they always sing it
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@KooshStephen @bloostoo yes, and he's going to prison. I don't understand the relevance.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@KooshStephen @bloostoo a) of course I do b) of course not c) he didn't own Bayern
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@PandaGCMC @trisjh don't be so harsh on yourself.
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@PandaGCMC @bloostoo I don't have a problem with City, I never even mentioned them. But City supporters took offence to my FFP comments
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@PandaGCMC @bloostoo impeccable logic.
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@bedrock_mcfc @mikekeeganmen please don't be silly. That's exactly the kind of investment FFP encourages.
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@PandaGCMC @bloostoo the answer is: neither effects football. idiotic to bring it up.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@PandaGCMC @bloostoo you tell me. is torture good for football?
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@KooshStephen @bloostoo did I?
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apologies. not everyone can have your sense of perspective, "stark raving mad" @bloostoo
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@CBurleyESPN they're taking a break from taking a break tonight
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@CBurleyESPN Bayern - Kaiserslautern is the one for you, Craig
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@HiboRand all spending on club facilities and youth are exempt from FFP, Hibo.
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@BlueBockle cheers
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@LeeBrom @BlueBockle everyone else in Italy did!
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
tough to enough to argue pro FFP, even tougher when debating with 10 different people. I'll write a piece instead
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@SamuelJR91 @BlueBockle it punishes over-spending. ownership model irrelevant. that's what I meant
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@SamuelJR91 @BlueBockle ... Glazers: UEFA can't prohibit leveraged buy-outs of companies.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@SamuelJR91 @BlueBocklein 99% of cases, club debt is a direct consequence of over-spending. but stadium debt is obviously ok. and as for...
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@SamuelJR91 @BlueBockle it doesn't punish anyone.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@cfdj1971 I'm sorry. you're in the wrong debate. the "insulting people and making irrelevant statements" one is elsewhere. bye
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@BlueBockle @LeeBrom I know what I would prefer for my club. but I accept that feeling in England is different
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@BlueBockle @LeeBrom FFP: smallish chance but will take ten years. no FFP and no billionaire: no chance. no FFP and billionaire: chance
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@cfdj1971 no. this is you trolling.
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@Large_Goat en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_… plenty of ordinary clubs in there
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@andrewalcott wrong analogy. imagine a small business being bought whose business model is to lose money, unlike the competition
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@BlueBockle @LeeBrom let's wait if the figures will back that up. I think it's no coincidence that CFC spent relatively little this year
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@SOLeary84 yes, but being smart, buying smart, making smart business moves is part of the game. or: it should be.
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@LeeBrom 200 ECA clubs seem to disagree, strangely enough. somehow they missed that bit
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@andrewalcott @SOLeary84 everyone without a sheikh. hard to understand?
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@andrewalcott I understand that, too. what happens in a market when excess $$ is pumped into it? who is hurt by that- the rich or the poor?
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@LeeBrom but why do they believe in that? ask yourself that. genuinely.
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@Luke1882 looks very good
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@andrewalcott @SOLeary84 I understand business, mate. dreaming of sheikhs is not a viable business plan.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@SOLeary84 ok.
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@LeeBrom @bedrock_mcfc @BlueBockle you will be hard pressed to find any FFP opponents in the 17 "other" Bundesliga clubs. they believe in it
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@LeeBrom @bedrock_mcfc @BlueBockle ... for what it is. it doesn't always come down to club allegiance. to illustrate the point:
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@LeeBrom @bedrock_mcfc @BlueBockle so why not debate with this without the personal attacks and accusations? people can accept an idea...
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@SOLeary84 more than 200 clubs voted yes. are they all the elite? are they all stupid? how come they all missed the non-competitive bit?
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@LeeBrom @bedrock_mcfc @BlueBockle if you're really interested - I assume you're not - read some of my older Bayern pieces.
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@SOLeary84more more than 200 clubs voted yes. are they all the elite? are they all stupid? how come they all missed the non-competitive bit?
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@LeeBrom @bedrock_mcfc @BlueBockle "Man City obsessed" keyboard warrior alleging journalistic bias. HOLD.THE.PRESS.
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@bloostoo @petr_hruby @bedrock_mcfc @ManCunian56 @SOLeary84 imagine: they don't want it. they want to spend their own money. it feels better
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@bedrock_mcfc @LeeBrom @BlueBockle unlike you, I don't accuse those I argue with about knowing nothing.
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@SOLeary84 you misunderstand, again. I actually think City are doing it the right way - thanks , partly, to FFP pressure of course
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@JimmyGrimble10 c) if you say yes to b) you might want to pause and think why that is - and if it should stay that way
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@JimmyGrimble10 a) I never mentioned City. b) are you telling me that any football club can only move forward if they're bought by a sheikh?
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@bedrock_mcfc @ManCunian56 @SOLeary84 of course. and they will have to prove it's fair
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@steve_mcfc @BlueBockle no, Steve. investment will not be banned. losing money on players will be. #verybigdifference
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@Dakeb_MCFC I want to be Prince. (Sign o the Times era)
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@bedrock_mcfc I'm not - agree with you on that point.
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@bedrock_mcfc @ManCunian56 @SOLeary84 sorry, I meant real money. not taking it from one pocket and putting it into your other one
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@steve_mcfc @BlueBockle if you think that owner investment is banned by FFP, you have no idea.
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@steve_mcfc @RossDoherty @BlueBockle laughable. why don't you "blame" the close PL race on FFP? or the one in Spain?
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@steve_mcfc @BlueBockle investment - no, on the contrary. spending crazy money on players - yes.
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@ManCunian56 @SOLeary84 they were a two-bob club 45 years ago. the money followed success, not the other way round. like it should be
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@SOLeary84 repeating it doesn't make your argument any stronger.
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@SOLeary84 3) FFP wants investors to invest in stadium/youth. not 120k on Chris Samba et al.
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@SOLeary84 2) it protects the 99,99% of clubs who are not owned by billionaires and have to get by. that's why 200 ECA members voted yes
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@SOLeary84 you - and many others parroting the same line - just don't get it. FFP doesn't protect the elite. they don't need protecting.(1)
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Raphael Honigstein @honigstein
@RossDoherty @BlueBockle ... you have to curb spending at the top, rather than increase spending at the bottom through sheikhs etc.
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@RossDoherty @BlueBockle .. from small clubs. 3. it's not realistic for every small club to be bought by a sheikh, consequently...
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@RossDoherty @BlueBockle 1. "big clubs" have always been buying players from small clubs 2. FFP limits scope of "big clubs" to buy players..
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@RossDoherty @BlueBockle everyone has been parroting that line for a couple of years. but it's nonsense
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@BlueBockle without FFP, City and Chelsea would have simply blown another €90m in January. there would be no Liverpool. just one example
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@BlueBockle ... at a sticky patch. and they do mess up all the time.
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@BlueBockle I thought about if for a moment - and it's complete nonsense. FFP vastly reduces leeway for elite clubs to simply throw money...
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Iain Taker @iaintaker
If you are interested in FFP I'd recommend watching @FootballLaw on BT Sport this evening at 7.
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Gregg Bakowski @GreggBakowski
This is staggeringly good > Lunchtime read – 25 World Cup stunning moments: No10: Bergkamp's wonder goal | Rob Smyth gu.com/p/3ze25/t
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@AJZhammers some do, some don't
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@DrNMistry marrying a princess, of course
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@Zonal_Marking better
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fans dreaming about being bought by a billionaire is like little girls dreaming to become a princess. aim a bit higher. #FFP
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@Born_a_gooner Dortmund will definitely get closer, much closer. Schalke, too, if they hire a good manager.
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@Surfin_Bird will do thx
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Guardian Bundesliga column on Dortmund switching sides with Bayern for a day (and Klopp's move in the summer): theguardian.com/football/blog/…
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Matt Scott @Matt5cott
The horrifying Hillsborough truth, which, as @Markchippers points out, MOTD had within hours, 25yrs ago. #lfc #JFT96 youtu.be/ypE5TG2UPNk
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Meanwhile, Klopp is still discretely scouting Ranocchia. (pic.twitter.com/tXOJfatmXz)
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@sidlowe a bit of Clasico never hurt anyone
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Stefan @bvbawesome
Gündogan in a military hospital on the Krim? Sounds like the start of some Marvel-based comic.
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Ein russisches Militärkrankenhaus oder doch ein ukrainisches? Wir brauchen Klarheit, @SPORT1. #Ilkay
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